tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-356241226024929790.post2786292910035794249..comments2023-05-13T05:56:33.773-05:00Comments on World of Wonder: [40K] The Beginner's ProjectLoquacioushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01667591498679385934noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-356241226024929790.post-805839023973231442010-11-18T17:44:48.234-06:002010-11-18T17:44:48.234-06:00Shimrod, that's what I always thought it was. ...Shimrod, that's what I always thought it was. :D<br /><br />Ok then Loq, I'll start working on that. It'll probably be in no sort of order though, I'll just do things as they come to me. :DArchnomadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08574193516836780319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-356241226024929790.post-36954969215666459322010-11-17T00:25:05.737-06:002010-11-17T00:25:05.737-06:00++ for a save also can be an Orwell reference. In...++ for a save also can be an Orwell reference. In Newspeak a thing can be "doubleplus good". So a 3+ save is good, but a 3++ is obviously even better. ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-356241226024929790.post-46239102067432798522010-11-16T20:13:29.079-06:002010-11-16T20:13:29.079-06:00n++ is programming shorthand for n=n+1, so its use...n++ is programming shorthand for n=n+1, so its use for inv. save is very confusing for me still. As I cannot read ++ without thinking of it as an incrimenter, which it is. Just like != means not equal to.<br /><br />I have played 40K for a while, and most of the stuff you mention is *very* recent forum-based 1337sp34k, but a modern, geekier version. x-dar, x-wing, and the insufferable abbreviations that sub-teens foist upon us are the surest sign that I am old, as it makes my teeth grind. <br /><br />...'nids is just annoying, 'dex is stupid, 'crons is a pain in the nipples, deldar, delves and helves make more sense, but generally, textspk and brvs for their own sake just serve as exclusionary jargon. *grump*grumheldenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02826281345242784909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-356241226024929790.post-44178200823300277672010-11-16T18:18:38.715-06:002010-11-16T18:18:38.715-06:00Shimrod- I didn't know that as I don't rea...Shimrod- I didn't know that as I don't read Dakka.... I have looked around GW's site and always come away confused- you have to hunt pretty hard to find anything, if you ask me. BUT- thanks for pointing that out. I'll check it out soon. <br /><br />Archy- PLEASE do... I'd love to see your explanations and what you come up with!Loquacioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01667591498679385934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-356241226024929790.post-28927986246600398522010-11-16T16:57:42.787-06:002010-11-16T16:57:42.787-06:00A lot of forums have similar resources, worth poki...A lot of forums have similar resources, worth poking around and raiding those.sonsoftaurushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08466971377569066201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-356241226024929790.post-8938368295969982132010-11-16T16:41:56.653-06:002010-11-16T16:41:56.653-06:00Sure, go for it. It should be up at noon tomorrow....Sure, go for it. It should be up at noon tomorrow.Maxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12478821172146809894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-356241226024929790.post-155131147239958782010-11-16T16:17:56.420-06:002010-11-16T16:17:56.420-06:00Is "Leafblower" not the build with mysti...Is "Leafblower" not the build with mystics and a psychic hood, that the internet then turned into every mech IG list because they had no idea what the term meant? For example calling a list with 6 hydras, no PBS, devil dogs, and suchlike a "Leafblower". But by now it's been thrown around so much it may as well be "Codex: Leafblower and Blob Guard".<br /><br />>_><br /><br />Anyway, Loquacious is there any way I could hitch on the back of this and do one for WHFB? I'm sure there's just as many confused newbies on the other side of the coin.Archnomadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08574193516836780319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-356241226024929790.post-31215029617929523822010-11-16T15:51:00.882-06:002010-11-16T15:51:00.882-06:00Dakkadakka.com has a feature where if you hover yo...Dakkadakka.com has a feature where if you hover your mouse cursor over a common acronym/abbreviation, it pops up a little definition for you.<br /><br />For reference, there are FAQs on the GW site, as well as the independent INAT FAQ which some major events use, like Adepticon.<br /><br />http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?catId=cat440134a&categoryId=1000018&section=&aId=3400019<br /><br />http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/320948.pageAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-356241226024929790.post-35572288554817702192010-11-16T15:27:57.274-06:002010-11-16T15:27:57.274-06:00You guys are awesome!
Max, do you mind if I swip...You guys are awesome! <br /><br />Max, do you mind if I swipe your post/info for my resource page? <br /><br />Dave- I wondered if it was related to C++ but was too afraid to ask for a long time. <br /><br />Thor, your clarification was fantastic. Thanks!<br /><br />Drax, that is a great list and you hit some stuff I didn't know.<br /><br />keep it coming!Loquacioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01667591498679385934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-356241226024929790.post-42513251479006572832010-11-16T15:08:19.942-06:002010-11-16T15:08:19.942-06:00For the first couple of years my blog had a fairly...For the first couple of years my blog had a fairly comprehensive glossary of IG terms down the right sidebar, but my readership found it of little-to-no use, so I sacked it.<br /><br />I've been playing for about 15 years now, though, and I regularly have to try and work out many of these newly coined terms. <br /><br />Many of them seem to have exploded out of the predominantly US competitive/tournament scene...aided no doubt by the frequency with which so many of these players (and armchair pundits worldwide!) discuss such issues online - the shorthand is a natural and inevitable progression.<br /><br />But yes, it's bloody confusing. <br /><br />a few more, maybe:<br /><br /><b>H2H or HtH</b> is hand-to-hand (combat)<br /><b>=I=</b> is the Inquisition (quite clever, that one!)<br /><b>chimeltavets</b> (or variants thereof) describes IG veterans in chimeras armed to the teeth with meltaguns<br /><b>FNP</b> is Feel No Pain, which is a <br /><b>USR</b>, or a Univeral Special Rule (from the main rulebook); many of these are abbreviated.<br /><b>FOC</b> is the Force Organisation Chart,<br /><b>WAAC</b> is 'win at all costs',<br /><b>RAW</b> is 'rules as written' as opposed to <br /><b>RAI</b> which is 'rules as interpreted'.<br /><br />My mind's now melting.Admiral Draxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07476823273954165890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-356241226024929790.post-70422711522098805922010-11-16T14:54:49.745-06:002010-11-16T14:54:49.745-06:00I could never take offense from the god of Thunder...I could never take offense from the god of Thunder.<br /><br />You know, I started writing down IG terms but it ended up getting so long that I think I'm just going to post it on my blog (defendinghumanity.blogspot.com) tomorrow.Maxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12478821172146809894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-356241226024929790.post-16668836971416448682010-11-16T14:13:41.119-06:002010-11-16T14:13:41.119-06:00To clarify Max's replies a bit. No offense, Ma...To clarify Max's replies a bit. No offense, Max, makes perfect sense to me but might not be so clear to a newer player.<br /><br />The parenthesis next to a value indicates it's a modified value. For example, a Marine on a bike has a toughness of 4(5). He's normally T4 but on the bike he's T5. When wounding a T4(5) model you're using the modified value of 5 for all things EXCEPT where instant death is possible. If you fire a S8 weapon at a biker then it's possible to instant death him because the unmodified value is T4 and S8 is twice that value.<br /><br />You'll also see parenthesis used for other things, like an Ironclad Dreadnought is A2(3). Meaning, if it has both arms then it's 3 attacks but if you lose one you're down to 2 attacks, the base value.Thorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04437070475561268098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-356241226024929790.post-14005069514781009882010-11-16T13:06:54.693-06:002010-11-16T13:06:54.693-06:00++ to me was a play on an old program that tossed ...++ to me was a play on an old program that tossed it on a new version to mean it was lots better... like A++.<br /><br />Only recently have I found out that ++ is also a term now used in gaming to refer to an invulnerable save.<br /><br />Aka, 3+ saves can be negated with AP, 3++ however is an invuln.Dave Garbehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01557481319925772152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-356241226024929790.post-82465070134444787992010-11-16T12:59:35.817-06:002010-11-16T12:59:35.817-06:00CSM is not to be confused with C:SM. CSM is Chaos ...CSM is not to be confused with C:SM. CSM is Chaos Space Marines, C:SM is Codex: Space Marines. Seems simple, but it's confused the hell out of me a few times when I didn't notice that little : in there.<br /><br />A lot of abbreviations are faction-specific, which makes it tough to remember them all or get them in the right context. CML is Cyclone Missile Launcher, which is second-nature if you're a marines player, but if all you play is Eldar, you may not be familiar with the term.Zheiltnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-356241226024929790.post-4716832204996241132010-11-16T12:39:52.981-06:002010-11-16T12:39:52.981-06:00One more note on parenthetical characteristics- yo...One more note on parenthetical characteristics- you use the parenthetical number for everything else besides what I mentioned above. So if you shoot a bolter at a Marine on a bike [T 4(5)] you'll be wounding on 5s. But if you shot a Melta gun [Str 8] and the biker had multiple wounds you would be able to inflict Instant Death (or ID, basically killing him outrght instead of dealing 1 wound) on the poor biker.Maxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12478821172146809894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-356241226024929790.post-67179426313637559302010-11-16T12:36:48.398-06:002010-11-16T12:36:48.398-06:00Leafblower typically means some kind of Mech Imp G...Leafblower typically means some kind of Mech Imp Guard force that is designed to "blow" you off the table with tons of shooting. Typically features multiple ordnance platforms like Medusas or Manticores. NOT to be confused with Mech IG which mostly has Chimeras and a few Vendettas. Generally an overused term in my opinoin.<br /><br />++ is short hand for invulnerable save.<br /><br />Dar is short for Eldar. Hence Footdar=foot eldar.<br /><br />Wing is a term for armies that focus on one particular kind of unit, typically to the exclusion of most others. Generally used to refer to Terminator armies thanks to the progenitor of the term, the Deathwing of the Dark Angels. Other examples: Deffwing (Meganobz), Loganwing (Wolf guard), wraithwing (Necron wraiths), etc.<br /><br />A parenthetical toughness is not a true toughness, meaning that you use the non-parenthetical number for factoring thinks like Instant Death and characteristic tests. Most normally granted by being on a bike or due to Nurgle worship.<br /><br />I'll be back with some more abbreviations later- hopefully that helped!Maxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12478821172146809894noreply@blogger.com